{"id":410,"date":"2013-10-31T12:36:00","date_gmt":"2013-10-31T10:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/?p=410"},"modified":"2015-04-27T20:41:55","modified_gmt":"2015-04-27T18:41:55","slug":"the-new-stasi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/the-new-stasi\/","title":{"rendered":"The new Stasi?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You can probably imagine which story has been dominating the news in the United States for the past week. That&#8217;s right: the one about the problems with the new health-insurance program popularly known as Obamacare.<\/p>\n<p>The story that&#8217;s been dominating the news in Germany is also being reported in America, though not always as front-page news. That story, however, is much more important and could be far more damaging to the Obama administration and to the United States <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7b5b5\">in the long run<\/span>. Think about it: all it took for President Richard Nixon to almost be thrown out of office was to <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7b99a\">wiretap<\/span> his enemies. What could the consequences be of wiretapping your friends?<\/p>\n<div class=\"simplePullQuote right\"><p>Other countries would be punished for spying like this<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>If a different country were caught spying to this extent, its <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7bd82\">embassy<\/span> would be closed and its staff <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7c168\">deported<\/span>. That country&#8217;s military bases would be confiscated; diplomatic recognition might be <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7c553\">withdrawn<\/span>; there could be sanctions.<\/p>\n<p>The German <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7c939\">interior minister<\/span>, who was not at all <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7cd20\">concerned<\/span> when only the 80 million Germans whose last name is not Merkel were being spied on, and the location of the spying was not known, is now threatening the embassy staff with criminal <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7d108\">charges<\/span>, should the spying be proven. We&#8217;ll see if that happens; he certainly won&#8217;t be getting any information from the Americans.<\/p>\n<h2>Did they really not know?<\/h2>\n<p>A lot of people in important positions, <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7d4f2\">curiously<\/span>, don&#8217;t seem to know the things they should.<\/p>\n<p>US <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7d8df\">ambassador<\/span> to Germany John B. Emerson was on German television this week, claiming not to know what was happening under his own roof. President Barack Obama claimed not to know that Angela Merkel&#8217;s phone was being <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7dcc1\">tapped<\/span>. All summer long, General Keith Alexander, head of the NSA, and James Clapper, director of national <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7e0a8\">intelligence<\/span>, <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7e491\">denied<\/span> to Congress that their <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7e879\">agencies<\/span> had <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7ec60\">engaged in<\/span> any wrongdoing \u2014 until <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7f048\">evidence<\/span> proved <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7f431\">the contrary<\/span>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_411\" style=\"width: 824px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/spiegelstern.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-411\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-411 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/spiegelstern.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"814\" height=\"541\" srcset=\"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/spiegelstern.jpg 814w, http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/spiegelstern-150x100.jpg 150w, http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/spiegelstern-300x199.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 814px) 100vw, 814px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-411\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The scandal through the eyes of the German media: left, the US embassy as a &#8220;den of spies&#8221;; right, Obama as &#8220;the informant&#8221;.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>And was Merkel herself \u2014 a native of Stasiland \u2014 so naive to think she would not be targeted by a program put in place by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney? <a title=\"Lessons in success: What the admiral taught us (Mike Pilewski)\" href=\"\/blog\/lessons-in-success-what-the-admiral-taught-us\" target=\"_blank\">As the admiral reminded us,<\/a> &#8220;all nations act in their own self-interest all the time, without <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7f819\">exception<\/span>,&#8221; and the interests of the US are not the same as those of other countries, even its <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7fc00\">allies<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>So if the US is spying on everyone \u2014 and <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea7ffe8\">bear in mind<\/span>, the NSA&#8217;s <a title=\"The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) (Wired)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/threatlevel\/2012\/03\/ff_nsadatacenter\/all\/\" target=\"_blank\">new secret facility<\/a> in Utah <a title=\"Amid Data Controversy, NSA Builds Its Biggest Data Farm (NPR)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2013\/06\/10\/190160772\/amid-data-controversy-nsa-builds-its-biggest-data-farm\" target=\"_blank\">will be able to<\/a> <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea803d1\">store<\/span> almost one terabyte of data on each of the world&#8217;s seven billion people \u2014 that&#8217;s not a problem for those who have nothing to hide, right?<\/p>\n<div class=\"simplePullQuote right\"><p>The Stasi also felt people should have nothing to hide<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Well, didn&#8217;t the Stasi use to say that? Take out the word &#8220;US&#8221; and put in &#8220;Stasi&#8221; or &#8220;Russia&#8221; or &#8220;China&#8221; instead, or even the name of your own country. If it&#8217;s not all right for them to spy on you, it&#8217;s not all right for the US either.<\/p>\n<p>The difference to the real Stasi \u2014 and it&#8217;s a big one \u2014 is that in the United States, as I write this, journalists are not being <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea807b8\">rounded up<\/span> and political prisoners are not being held. But when the NSA has a full dossier on everyone, might that not prevent some people from <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea80ba1\">running<\/span> for political office, expressing their opinions or participating in protests \u2014 either for fear of <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea80f88\">blackmail<\/span> or of <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea81371\">winding up<\/span> on a list of some sort?<\/p>\n<h2>What will change?<\/h2>\n<p><a title=\"Should Europe still trust the United States after the spying scandal? (Today's Question)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.spotlight-online.de\/language\/todays-question\/should-europe-still-trust-the-united-states-after-the-spying-scandal\" target=\"_blank\">Only about 10 percent of Spotlight Online readers say<\/a> they still trust the United States as before. More than 50 percent say the US should not be trusted.<\/p>\n<p>My guess, however, is that on the state level, nothing will change. The US is too powerful, and German politicians too <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea81758\">spineless<\/span>, for anything meaningful to happen.<\/p>\n<p>The secret negotiations on the transatlantic free-trade agreement are almost complete, and the corporations that expect to profit from it will put pressure on the politicians not to let this scandal get in the way. <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea81b40\">Never mind that<\/span> the US probably <span id=\"tooltip551e6bea81f28\">secured<\/span> advantages for itself by tapping the phones of the European negotiators.<\/p>\n<p>Most importantly, though, if the story doesn&#8217;t disappear soon, journalists might start asking questions about the activities of Germany&#8217;s own espionage agency, the <a title=\"Bundesnachrichtendienst (English Wikipedia)\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bundesnachrichtendienst\" target=\"_blank\">BND<\/a>. On Tuesday, General Alexander told Congress that most of the data the NSA had on European citizens was being collected by their own countries&#8217; intelligence services. What if he&#8217;s right?<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RsjgOWwNRnk\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You can probably imagine which story has been dominating the news in the United States for the past week. That&#8217;s right: the one about the problems with the new health-insurance program popularly known as Obamacare. The story that&#8217;s been dominating the news in Germany is also being reported in America, though not always as front-page news. That story, however, is <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/the-new-stasi\/\">&#8230; >><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[173,27,168,91,63,167,154,142,171],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/410"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=410"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/410\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1615,"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/410\/revisions\/1615"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=410"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=410"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fascinating-america.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=410"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}